Ukuxoxisana noXabier Gutiérrez, umdali wohlobo lweGastronomic Noir

Siyajabula ukuba nanamuhla kubhulogi yethu nge UXabier Gutierrez, ESan Sebastián, 1960, umdali we i-gastronomic noir, lapho uhlobo olumnyama lwenzeka phakathi kwezitofu nezitsha zokusayina. UXabier unjalo omunye wabapheki abadume kakhulu ezweni lethu futhi i umbhali we-tetralogy Los Aromas del Crimen, edlala iphini likakhomishani we-Ertzaintza, uVicente Parra.

Ngaphambi kokuba afe, wanambitha isidlo sakhe sokugcina. Kepha kulokhu kube nomehluko omncane kusuka kuhlu olude lwezitsha ayebhale ngazo ephephandabeni lapho ayesebenza khona: lokhu kwakulungiswe nguyena esizwa yilaba bantu ababili abangamazi ababemhlasela. Futhi lalinambitha igazi nephunga lamalahle lapho babeyose khona inyama yengulube eyayiqede ukudla emahoreni amabili edlule. Futhi kuze kube sekufeni. "  (Ukunambitheka okubucayi, uXabier Gutiérrez)

Actualidad Literatura: Izincwadi ezintathu, uhlobo olusha kanye ne-ertzaintza njengomlingiswa oyinhloko. Uhlinzeka abakuthandayo ngenjabulo yokunambitha izibiliboco ezingacabangeki ezihlanyisa ulwanga lwabo bese unquma ukunyakazisa imiphefumulo yabo ngobubi nokuphelelwa yithemba okufihlwa ubugebengu. Ngabe umpheki okhaliphile, owine imiklomelo futhi owaziwayo njengo-Xabier Gutiérrez uza kanjani kumanoveli obugebengu?

U-Xabier Gutiérrez:

Ngafika eminyakeni eminingi edlule. Isikhathi sokuqala engathola ngaso lapho ngangineminyaka esencane yeshumi nantathu. Okokuqala ngikwenzile ngencwadi engingasoze ngayikhohlwa. Isikhathi sokuthula. (Luis Martin Santos) Futhi ekuzimeleleni kwami ​​ngacabanga ukuthi nami ngingakwenza lokho. Noma okungenani into efanayo. Ubuwula ngicabanga ukuthi lowo mcabango ubiziwe, hahaha. Impilo yami iboshwe ngamazwi. Ngivela ezincwadini ngokubukeka. Ngithanda ukudlala nabo. Benze basho abakufihlile. Nginamahloni futhi kwesinye isikhathi ngisebenzisa amagama njengesihlangu ukuzivikela. Banamandla okuthula okucacile. Okushiwo ngaphandle kokusho igama kukhona ukusondelana. Futhi cishe unomphela. Akukho moya oyobasusa.

AL: Ababhali baxuba futhi bahlukanise izinkumbulo zabo nezindaba abazizwile ukudala abalingiswa nezimo. Ukugqugquzelwa kwakho kuvela ekhishini, imvelo yakho yemvelo, leyo oyifundayo, lapho uzizwa ukhululekile khona. Futhi khona lapho, ubugebengu buvela. Ezincwadini zakho, i-winemaker, umgxeki wokudla, nabantu abahlukahlukene abahlobene nomhlaba we-gastronomy sebashona. Ingabe imibono ivela ezikhathini zangempela, kusuka emicimbini eyenzeka emakhishini, noma kungukucabanga okumsulwa ukuthi ubeke isimo emvelweni wazi kangcono?

I-XG: Amanoveli ami konke aqanjiwe, aqukethe iqiniso. Umdlalo uthola lapho ngiwumise khona. Kuyabonakala ukuthi ngokwazi imvelo kahle, kwesinye isikhathi uwela esilingweni sokukhiqiza imvelo noma abalingiswa abasondele, kepha kuyacaca ukuthi akunjalo. Ngidala izimo ngicabanga kwami. Kepha futhi kuyiqiniso ukuthi ukucabanga kwakho, okuyingxenye yesizukulwane senqubo yokudala, kungumphumela wokubonwa kwakho futhi kungahle kukukhohlise ngokukhumbula izidalwa noma izimo oke waphila kodwa ongakwazi ukuzikhumbula. Kungumdlalo lapho uvame ukuzivumela ukuthi uthathwe ngokungazi.

AL: Iphunga lobugebengu, Isixha sokwesaba y Ukunambitheka okubucayi, lesi sakamuva sashicilelwa ngo-2017. Silahlekelwe umsebenzi wokugcina we-tetralogy futhi abafundi bakho bayazibuza ukuthi sizohlala yini uma amacala amaningi kaVicente Parra, ingabe umsebenzi we-ertzaintza yethu esiyithandayo uzophela ngecala lakhe elilandelayo?

I-XG: Ngokomthetho iyi-tetralogy futhi iphetha ngesitolimende sesine (iBlack Rose Perfume) esinethemba lokuthi sizophuma kungekudala. Kokugcina, kutholwa izinto ezifihliwe kusukela kwisitolimende sokuqala. Lokhu kulindeleke ukuthi kube njalo, yize ubusazi nje ukuthi bobane ngamanoveli azivalalela. Ukuqhubeka nephoyisa elifanayo, angikwenqabeli, noma ngenze i-prequel esengivele ngiyidwebile kodwa kuphela ngemigqa emithathu. Angazi. Manje ngizithola sengiphothula inoveli entsha. Owokuqala ngaphandle komphathi omkhulu we-ertzaintza Vicente. Ngijabule futhi ngicabanga kuphela ukukwazi ukukuqeda. Sekusele amakhasi angamashumi amabili noma amathathu kuphela.

AL: UVicente Parra, u-ertzaitza, eminyakeni yakhe yamashumi amahlanu, uthanda amapuzzle, ushadile futhi ungubaba womndeni, onendodana efundela ukupheka, ehlakaniphile, enelukuluku futhi enenhliziyo enkulu. UVicente akayona into enhle kakhulu, yize edla ekhaya njengendawo yokudlela kanokusho. Yini uXabier ayinike uVicente noVicente Xabier?

I-XG:  Umbuzo omuhle lowo. Ngicabanga izinto eziningi. Sikhule ndawonye. Ngimfundise ukudla, lokho kucacile. Ukucabanga ngomuzwa omnandi wokuthi i-gastronomy exhumene ngqo namasiko icabanga. Ngoba uma ulahla ubumnandi bokudla, ukhipha uhhafu wezinjabulo ezinhle kakhulu umuntu angazithola kokukodwa kokuwa. I-LOL.

Kodwa ungifundise ukuba ngibe nokuhleleka okuthe xaxa, ngicabange kakhudlwana. Mhlawumbe i-visceral encane. Kancane nje. Ngisathanda futhi ngiyazonda ngenxa yesibindi.

Ngakolunye uhlangothi, mina noVicente sinenkani efanayo futhi sibathanda abesifazane bethu, ngicabanga, ngamandla afanayo.

Kodwa uVicente unginike okuningi kakhulu kunami. Kungikhombisile ukuthi cishe njalo uma ufuna, ungakwazi. Kuyinto iresiphi esebenza kaningi, hhayi ngeshwa ngaso sonke isikhathi. Umthamo omuhle womsebenzi nokukholelwa kuwe. Ndawonye bahambisa izintaba.

Kwesinye isikhathi ngiyikhulumile. Ngingenza i-shit, kulungile, kulungile, kepha kungokwami ​​futhi ngiyakholelwa kukho. Futhi ngiyababulala.

KuVicente nomndeni wakhe (okubaluleke njengetulo lokubulala) nginesimo esingesihle empilweni yami esingenze ngathola izinto ezintsha. Ngihleke nabo, ngikhalile ngamehlo ami, amaqhuqhuva anginike wona. Ngamunye wabo uyingxenye yesimo semizwa. Kusuka esihlokweni esiseduze nokuphila uqobo. Ngemuva kwakho konke, kungenye, eyenziwe ngephepha, engibenzele yona. Ngimbonga kakhulu ngokungikhombisa kwabo.

Kumkhulu ngikweleta ubuntu bakhe, endodaneni yakhe endala ukusebenzelana nentombi yakhe. Angazi, bengingakutshela ngamunye wabo.

Ngelinye ilanga ngiyommemela esidlweni sakusihlwa e-Arzak, .. hahahaha, ngiyamkweleta.

AL: Umqondisi womnyango omusha we-Arzak Restaurant eSan Sebastián, umhlanganyeli wezindaba ezahlukahlukene, umeluleki wezinkampani zokungenisa izihambi, uprofesa kumphathi wezokuphathwa kwezindawo zokudlela, izincwadi zokupheka eziningi ezishicilelwe nezizuza umklomelo nombhali wezinganekwane zobugebengu. Sivelaphi isikhathi sakho konke?

I-XG: Usuku lunamahora angama-24 futhi awukwazi nokucabanga inani lezinto ezingenziwa phakathi nemizuzu eyi-1440 abanayo.

Uzoba nesikhathi sokuphumula lapho ushona, .. hahaha. Ungayithathi ngenani elifanele. Cha ngokungathi sína, kuhamba ibanga elide. Ngibhala ekuseni amahora ambalwa. Kunzima kimi ukubhala okuningi, ukudala. Kamuva, ntambama, ngiyalungisa.

AL: Angikaze ngibuze umbhali ukuthi akhethe phakathi kwamanoveli akhe, kodwa ngiyacela ukukwazi njengomfundi. Endabeni yakho, ilukuluku likhulu kunanini ngaphambili: ingabe izincwadi eziyintandokazi kaXabier zizoba yizincwadi zokupheka, inoveli yokudla, mhlawumbe ibhuku lobugebengu elijwayelekile… Iyiphi leyo ncwadi oyikhumbula ngothando olukhethekile, ukuthi ikududuza ukuyibona eshalofini lakho? Noma imuphi umbhali ozithandayo, uhlobo olithenga kuphela olushicilelwe?

I-XG: Bayinhlanganisela yakho konke. Ngithanda imfihlakalo nokusola. Ziyisihluthulelo futhi kumanoveli ami ngizama ukukudlulisa. Ngiyazithanda ezakudala kodwa futhi nezethu. ULorenzo Silva, uDolores Redondo noma uCarlos Bassas. Futhi amaNordics yize kwesinye isikhathi ngiwathola ebanda kancane.

Incwadi eyodwa engingayikhohlwa yiThe Exorcist kaWilliam Peter Blatty.

Imvamisa ngigijimela esitolo sezincwadi uma kuza owokugcina ovela eKing.

Omunye umthombo wami wokhuthazo yi-cinema. Ngiphuza kuye futhi kwesinye isikhathi bayangigxeka ukuthi amanoveli ami afana nemibhalo yama-movie. Iphuma kanjena. 

AL: Yiziphi izikhathi ezikhethekile zomsebenzi wakho wobuchwepheshe? Labo ozobatshela abazukulu bakho.

I-XG: Ngiyethemba ukuthola ukutshela abazukulu bami ukuthi babenomkhulu wabo owayenesikhathi esimnandi sokwenza lokho ayekufuna. Owayethanda abantu abasondelene. Ukuthi wayethembekile ezimisweni zakhe. Ukuthi ngiwine imiklomelo ethile. Kepha,…. Kuzofanele futhi ngikutshele ukuthi benginephutha izikhathi eziyinkulungwane nokuthi ngizonikela ngakho konke enginakho ukukulungisa. Kepha konke lokho kuyingxenye yomdlalo.

Ezingeni lobungcweti ngizokutshela ukuthi ukubhala bekuyingxenye yempilo yami.

AL: Kulezi zikhathi lapho ubuchwepheshe buhlala buhlala njalo ezimpilweni zethu, abunakugwenywa ngenxa yokuxhumana nabantu, into ehlukanisa ababhali phakathi kwalabo abenqaba njengethuluzi lobuchwepheshe nalabo abalikhonzile. Cishe abalandeli be-6.000 ku-Twitter, i-2500 ku-Facebook, cishe i-3000 ku-Instagram, enephrofayili lapho, ngokwesitayela sakho, uxuba i-gastronomy nemibhalo. Kukulethelani ukuxhumana nomphakathi? Ingabe zidlula izingqinamba?

I-XG: Konke kunezinzuzo nezinkinga. Kuyindaba yokubaluleka kwabo nokuthi lezi zakamuva azimbozi okwangaphambili.

Kuyacaca ukuthi ukuxhumana nomphakathi kunengxenye enhle kakhulu. Bavule isikhala esiningi sokuthi abantu bazi izincwadi zami. Ukukhipha izinto eziningi zomuntu siqu ngiye ngibe mbi kakhulu yize kwesinye isikhathi ngenza njalo.

AL: Ngabe kulula ukuziphilisa ngokubhala noma ngokupheka?

XG: Ukwenza izinto kahle kunzima ngandlela thile. Uma ufuna ukuba ngowokuqala emhlabeni, kuzokubiza noma yini oyenzayo.

AL: Incwadi yedijithali noma iphepha?

I-XG: Iphepha, lithinta inkanuko.

AL: Ngabe ukugqekezwa kwemibhalo kuyakulimaza?

I-XG: Yebo. Abantu kufanele bakuqonde. Ukuthi umsebenzi wethu uhlonipheke njengalokhu abakwenzayo. Ngicabanga ukuthi senza kahle kodwa luselude ukhalo okusamele siluhambe.

AL: Ukuvala, njengenjwayelo, ngizokubuza umbuzo osondele kakhulu ongawubuza umbhali: kungani ubhala?

I-XG: Okoku zithokozisa.

Ngiyabonga Xabier Gutiérrez, ngikufisela impumelelo eminingi kuzo zonke izici zakho zobungcweti nezomuntu siqu, ukuthi umugqa ungapheli futhi uqhubeke nokusimangaza ngokudla okusha ngakunye nangeveli entsha ngayinye.