Udliwanondlebe olukhethekileyo noJael Lopumo: «Ndonwabile ngokupapashwa kweLito en Marte kunye noKaizen Editores»

U-Yael Lopumo, umdali weLito kwiMars

Namhlanje kwi Actualidad Literatura senza udliwano-ndlebe Yael lopumo (Buenos Aires, 1989), umzobi waseArgentina owamkelwa kakhulu ziinethiwekhi zentlalo Abahleli beKaizen mjonge kushicilelo lomsebenzi ULetho kuMars, eya kukhutshwa kungekudala kulonwabo lwabo bonke abalandeli bayo.

Actualidad Literatura: Molo Yael. Ukudala i-vignettes ekuzisela impumelelo enkulu, usebenzisa amagama kunye nemizobo ngexesha elifanayo. Ngaba uziva njengombhali kunye nomzobi ngokulinganayo okanye ngaba ubizo lwakho luncike ngakumbi kwelinye lala macala mabini?

U-Yael Lopumo: Ngokwenene ndaqala ngamabinzana endakha ndaziva kwaye andenza ndaziva ndichukumisekile ngaxa lithile, kodwa emva koko ndaqala ukwenza amabinzana ezinto ezazisenzeka kum, izinto eziqhelekileyo ezenzeka kubantu abaninzi, kwaye kuba ndingumbonisi , I Ukudityaniswa kobugcisa kunye nemibongo ethile, ukuyibiza loo nto, yayilungile. Ndiziva ndachongwa ngakumbi yimifanekiso.

AL: Ukuthandwa kwakho kwimidiya yoluntu, ngakumbi kwi-Instagram ayinakuphikwa. Ngaba uziva ngathi ibilibhodi elungileyo ukuze upapashwe? Ukuvavanya njani ukubaluleka kwabalandeli namhlanje kubabhali abatsha ukuba benze indlela yabo kwihlabathi leencwadi eziprintiweyo?

YL: Inyani yile yokuba umba wabalandeli ubalulekile kum ukuze uqhubeke usiya kwintsholongwane ngakumbi kwaye ube nefuthe elikhulu, kwaye ngokusekwe kuloo nto, iindlela ezintsha ziyavela. Ndicinga ukuba ngaphandle kwabo andinakuphumeza nantoni na endiyenzayo namhlanje kwaye ndinombulelo ongazenzisiyo kubalandeli bam, kwaye ndiyayazisa xa bebhalela mna, ndiphendula nganye nganye ... Ndothuswe kakhulu linani yabalandeli kwiinyanga nje ezintlanu, kodwa ndiyacinga kwaye ndiyaphupha ukuba oku kuya ngaphezulu. Namhlanje ndigxile kwaye ndonwabile ukugqiba uhlelo lwencwadi kunye noKaizen Editores, kwaye ke mhlawumbi ezinye iindlela ziya kuvuleka.

Ikhathuni yeLito kwiMars

AL: Umbuzo olandelayo ujikeleza ngokuchanekileyo malunga nabahleli beKaizen. Bavakalisile iinjongo zabo zokubheja kuzo zonke ezo zithembiso zinelizwi labo kwi-intanethi kodwa ezifuna umhleli ukulungiselela ukuba bashiye ilifa labo ephepheni. Ngapha koko uya kuba ngumntu wokuqala kwingqokelela yakhe yemifanekiso. Ulixabisa njani eli nyathelo kunye nenyaniso yokuba babheje kanzima kuwe?

YL: Ukuthetha inyani, ndiyayixabisa iinzame zakho kakhulu, hayi ngokubhekisele kum kuphela, kodwa nakwintando yakho nokuzinikela kwakho okukubeka yonke imihla ... ndinombulelo kwaye ndonwabile ukuzithemba okuphantsi kwaye ke ndiye ndamangaliswa xa uJavier endixelela ngohlobo lwencwadi yeLITO EN MARTE. Andinayo indlela yokubabulela, kuya kufuneka ndiye eSpain ukuze ndibange kakuhle. Wayebathemba kakhulu kwaye kule projekthi intle.

AL: Ufunde ukufunda nokuzoba xa wawusemncinci kakhulu kwaye abazali bakho badlala indima ebaluleke kakhulu kolo fundo lokuqala.Ngaba ucinga ukuba uluntu lwanamhlanje luyayazi indlela yokuphucula italente kunye nobuchule babantwana? Ucinga ukuba iintsapho nezikolo mazidlale eyiphi indima malunga noku?

YL: Ndicinga ukuba ukuzoba kubaluleke kakhulu, ngakumbi xa singabantwana, ukuzoba akubonakalisi nje kuphela oko sikuthethayo kodwa kukwathetha nangendlela esivakalelwa ngayo ngokwasemphefumlweni, ngakumbi imibala yemibala esiyisebenzisayo. Ngelishwa, kule mihla, iintsapho azibonisi ukuzoba ukubaluleka ebekufanele ukuba nako. Mhlawumbi kungenxa yokungalazi ilizwe lobugcisa kunye nokuba lithetha ntoni kuthi. Namhlanje amakhwenkwe namantombazana bajolise ngakumbi kwezinye izakhono ezifuna ukusetyenziswa kwesixhobo esifana ne-Intanethi, okanye iitalente zabo zezala maxesha kwaye abazali banamhlanje abaqhele ukuziqonda yiyo loo nto bengabaxhasi. Imeko ye-youtubers isebenza njengomzekelo, kuba kumaxesha amaninzi abazali babo abakwazi ukuqonda ubungakanani bento eyenziwa ngabantwana babo. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba izikolo, okanye mandithi abo basebenza kuzo, kufuneka batshintshe indlela yokufunda, bangabi nzima kwaye babe bhetyebhetye kwaye basebenzise ubuchwepheshe obutsha. Ubuncinci apha eArgentina siphelelwe lixesha ngokubhekisele kwimfundo. Ndiyakholelwa ukuba imfundo yabucala akufuneki ibekho. Sifundisa abantwana ukwahlulahlula, kuba kukho iindawo ezinelungelo lokuncinci kunye noluntu kunye nemithombo yeendaba enkulu ngandlela thile ibenza babone ukuba eyabucala yeyona ilungileyo, endaweni yokubafundisa ukulingana.

AL: Kwiminyaka ye-18 waqala izifundo zakho kwiFakhalthi yoYilo kunye neDolophu yaseCiudad de la Plata. Ngaba imfundo yaseyunivesithi oye wakwazi ukuyifumana apho iwuchaphazele njani umsebenzi wakho?

YL: Uff .. kakhulu. Ngokukodwa kunxibelelwano olubonakalayo, apho ndifundise khona. Apho ndafunda lukhulu malunga nokusetyenziswa kombala, imigca, umahluko esiwusebenzisayo kwaye kutheni, indlela esisebenzisa ngayo umbala ... Ndicinga ukuba iFakhalthi indifundise uninzi lwezinto endizaziyo ngobugcisa, kwaye ndiyayibulela loo nto. UDiego Cremaschi, uprofesa wangoku wezifundo ezi-3 kwiFakhalthi.

AL: Umlinganiswa oqaqamba kwiikhathuni zakho ubizwa ngokuba nguLito kwaye umchaza njengenja yokukhohlisa. Wena, Yael Lopumo, ubizwa ngokuba nguYaelito kwisangqa sakho esisondeleyo. ILito ingumbhalo kaJael ngokwakhe kangakanani? Zeziphi iimpawu zakhe ozibona njengezakho? Ngaba ikho into ethandwayo ngawe?

YL: (encumile). Ndabanjwa, ndikrwada kakhulu, ukuya kuthi ga apho uya kufuna ukuthulisa ilizwi lam. Ndiyakuthanda ukuthetha, kodwa kungekuphela ngothando olufana nolukaLito, kodwa nangezinye izifundo ezinje ngezokwakha, ifilosofi kunye nobugcisa. Kungekudala ndadlula kwinqanaba lokudakumba, ndicinga ukuba uLito ukwindawo ethile kwaye uchonga okwenzekayo ngalo mzuzu.

AL: Kukuchana ngokuchanekileyo kukaLito okuye kwanceda abantu abaninzi abazive bachongiwe njengoko babehamba ngamaxesha afanayo. Ndicinga ukuba yinto ekuthuthuzelayo kwaye uyaziqhenya ngayo kwaye iya kuba ngabalandeli bakho abaya kukuthumelela ingxelo entle, ukongeza kumbulelo wabo. Uyakhumbula naliphi na ityala endiye ndakuphawula kulo apho ii-vignettes zakho kunye nemiyalezo eziqulathiweyo zisebenzele ukwenza abanye abantu bazive bhetele?

YL: Kwakukho iimeko ezininzi, imiyalezo emininzi yayize kum ivela kwizibini ezandixelela izinto ezinje "enkosi kwimiyalezo yakho sikwazile ukulungisa iingxaki zethu, enkosi kumzobo wakho ndiqonde ukuba kwenzeka ntoni kum ...". Eyokugqibela endiyikhumbulayo yayiyintombazana. Undixelele ukuba wayokutya kwindawo yokutyela ebizwa ngokuba yi "Voltereta" ebekwe eValencia, kwaye wadibana neqabane lakhe, awayeza kohlukana nalo kuba wayezokuya emsebenzini omtsha. Bathe bakuhlala phantsi bafumana ileta kunye nee-vignettes zam, kuba loo ndawo yokutyela ipapasha kubo inyanga nenyanga umsebenzi wabanye abaculi ababemenyiwe, kwaye ndichukumisa umfanekiso othi "Ngoku ndenza ntoni ngalo mnqweno wokukuphuza?" iliphi ilitha ejonge inqwelomoya emkayo. Emva koko kwaye ijonge kwabanye, umyeni wagqiba kwelokuba ahlale. Ukusukela ngala mhla ndaye ndazi ukuba ndingenza ntoni ebantwini. Inyaniso ndandimangalisiwe, kwaye ngoku ndiyikhumbulayo kwakhona.

Umzekeliso kaLito kwiMars

AL: Ezinye zezinto ezibonakalayo kunye neempawu zendlela yakho yokupenda yimigca elula kunye ne-minimalism. Ngaba sisicwangciso-qhinga sokushiya ngaphezulu indawo yengqondo yeekhonsepthi kunye neembonakalo eziphuhliswe kwii-vignettes?

YL: Kwakukho umakhi waseJamani ogama linguMies owathi "Okuncinci kuninzi." Wayebhekisa kwinto yokuba izinto ezithi zivele kwinqwelomoya, kokukhona intle kangako, kokukhona kuvela okumbalwa, kokukhona intle kakhulu. Singayisebenzisa kuzo zonke iinkalo, nokuba zezobugcisa okanye akunjalo.

AL: Umxholo weekhathuni uhlala ujikeleza ngokungabikho kwabo ubathandayo, ukukhathazeka kwentliziyo okanye ukulangazelela. Amava amabi okhe waphila kuwo awuchaphazele kangakanani umsebenzi wakho kunalawo alungileyo? Ngaba uyithatha indalo njengohlobo lwe-alchemy ekwaziyo ukukhupha igolide kwizixhobo ezinomdla eziphantsi?

YL: Ndicinga ukuba yile ngongoma yokuba kutheni abalandeli abaninzi. Sonke sihamba ngamaxesha anzima ebomini bethu. Kwaye kulapho abantu baziva bachongiwe. Ukuswela uthando, inkohliso kukuswela umntu. Ukudakumba kwam yayisesona sizathu sokuba ndigxile emsebenzini wam kwezi ntlobo zemicimbi.

AL: Size ukubona uLito ecaphula ICortázar. Zeziphi ezinye iincwadi ezinempembelelo kuwe? Kunye nemifanekiso?

YL: UJulio sisalathiso sam esihle, kodwa nabanye bayathanda Pablo Neruda okanye Alfonsina Storni. Ndicinga ukuba zezona zibalaseleyo kwinto endiyithandayo. Imizobo, inyani, ndingumpeyinti ngakumbi, ndenza imisebenzi yeoyile, ndingumlandeli kaVincent Van Gogh. Nditsho ndenza nobuso ebusweni bakhe. Wayengaphumi kwilizwe leekhathuni, de uLito azalwe. Kukho into engaziwa mntu, u-lito wayebizwa ngokuba yi-MILU kwaye wazalwa ku-Facebook kwakude kudala ngaphambi kokuba kuzalwe abenzi bewayini abanjengoNico Illustrations.

AL: Ihlabathi lamaphupha libonakala linendima ebonakalayo kunye nephindaphindayo kwiikhathuni zakho, nokuba kungokubhekiswa kokubhaliweyo kwizivakalisi okanye ngenxa yendlela oyiphupha ngayo imbonakalo yepeyinti. Ngaba ukhupha izinto zomsebenzi wakho kumaphupha akho? Ngaba naziphi na ii-vignettes zakho ziphuphile ngokoqobo ngaphambi kokuba zibekwe ephepheni?

YL: Zininzi. Ngokuchanekileyo le yokugqibela ndiyilayishile. Ndiphuphe utat'omkhulu, endilahlekile kwaye engomnye wabantu abanzima kakhulu ukwamkela ukuba akekho emhlabeni. Ndiphuphe iplanethi iSaturn igcwele bomvu, luhlaza okwesibhakabhaka, imibala yefuchsia, kwaye andikwazi kunceda kodwa ukuyipenda. Kodwa ii-vignettes ezininzi ndiziphuphile kwaye ayisiyiyo loo nto kuphela, kodwa nemizobo.

Ikhathuni yeLito kwiMars, nguYael Lopumo

AL: Ngoku ukuba uthetha ngeeplanethi, umbuzo unyanzelekile. Iakhawunti ye-Instagram apho ubeka khona indalo yakho ibizwa ngokuba yiLito en Marte, kwaye iya kuba yiyo enika isihloko kwincwadi esiza kuba nakho ukuyifunda kungekudala. Kwenye ye-vignettes uLito uthi "Ndiyakuthanda ukukuthanda." Ngaba ngumdlalo wamagama onokuthi uchaze intsingiselo yegama leakhawunti kunye nesihloko sencwadi? (Ndiyakuthanda Ndiyakuthanda)

YL: Libinzana endilibhalele intombi yam, kwaye ndiyithandile kakhulu, ibonisa ukulula. Ngaba uyazi ukuba ivela phi? Ndizibuze "ikhona into eyomeleleyo kunokuthi" ndiyakuthanda "?" Ndaye ndacinga ngale mpendulo. Ndiyakuthanda ukukuthanda. Ndiyazithanda iiplanethi, ngakumbi imfihlelo yendalo iphela, imibala yendalo yonke ...

AL: Kwiakhawunti yakho ye-Instagram usichaza isitayile sakho njengo "art ngomxube wothando" kwaye inyani kukuba oko kubonakala kuyindlela yokuphumelela. Kodwa njengokuba uyazi, kuyo nayiphi na iresiphi elungileyo ubuninzi kunye nokulinganisela kunempembelelo enkulu. Ngaba ungazama ukubonisa umxube ngeepesenti? Bungakanani ubugcisa nothando kangakanani kwiikhathuni ezinkulu ozenzayo?

YL: Uthando lukho kuyo yonke indawo, kuyo yonke imizobo, kuzo zonke izivakalisi kunye nemibhalo, kuwo onke amagqabantshintshi. Nkqu ngombala. Imibala nayo, ivelisa ukuthamba, ivelise ukuzola. Mhlawumbi ubugcisa bunothando oluthile, yiyo loo nto umxube, ubugcisa yimibala kwaye uzithanda iintetho.

AL: Okokugqibela, sifuna ukukubulela ngeli thuba usinike lona kwaye lasivumela ukuba sikwazi ngakumbi. Sinqwenela ukuba ujonge abafundi bethu ngqo ukuze uphelise olu dliwanondlebe nomyalezo omfutshane obalungeleyo.

YL: Enkosi. Ndonwabile kakhulu ngayo yonke le nto ndihamba kuyo, ndonwabe kakhulu ukuba ndifumene udliwanondlebe lwam lokuqala, apho bendiziva ndikhululekile ukuba ndithethe le ndiyicingayo kwaye ndiziva ndilungile kwelinye icala Kwaye ndifuna ukuxelela abafundi ukuba basoloko beya kuyo yonke into, ukuba akukho nanye imini engaphantsi, kodwa kuselusuku olunye ukuzama ukufezekisa amaphupha akho.


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