Marcos Chicot. © Novelashistóricas
Mushure mekutumira ebook rinotengeswa pasi rese muSpanish pakati pa2013 na2016, Kuurayiwa kwaPythagoras, psychoanalyst Marcos Chicot Álvarez (Madrid, 1971) akasarudza muna 2009 kuti amire pfupi mushure mekuzvarwa kwemwanasikana wake, Lucía, anorwara neDown syndrome, uye kunyora runyorwa kwemakore matanhatu. Kupondwa kwaSocrates, basa rekupedzisira rePlaneta Prize ya2016. Iri basa iro, kusiyana nekutengesa kwaro kwese, rinobata neyekunaka (uyezve ine nyonganiso) yenguva yechinyakare Girisi ingangodaro yaive isiri kure nekuMadokero kwanhasi.
Marcos Chicot: "Socrates akaita mutsauko"
Ndi14: 30pm kuhotera yeFairmont Juan Carlos I muBarcelona uye kunyangwe akaneta, Marcos Chicot anoenderera achinyemwerera, achiratidza runako runomuratidza pakati pevakuru venhau nevatori venhau. Anokumbira mvumo yangu yekudya chimwe chinhu kubva mundiro yemapepa yavakaisa patafura uye iye anosvika kumberi, anofarira iko kuswedera.
Basa rake, wekupedzisira The Kuuraya kwaSocrates, "inonakidza uye yakaoma riano nezve yekare Girisi", mumashoko emunyori iye. Iyo nyaya inotanga nekubiwa kwemucheche kuti ienderere pasi peiyo kumashure kwePeloponnesian Hondo, gakava rakatarisana neAthens neSparta kwemakore makumi maviri nemanomwe.
Actualidad Literatura: Unonzwa sei?
Marcos Chicot: Kunze kwekuneta. . . (anoseka)
AL: Kunze
MC: Ndinonzwa kunge ndiri pagore, ndinofunga kuneta kunobatsira kurota kunzwa. Ndinoda kuzorora mangwana uye ndive nemaonero akakura, ndichitarisira kurarama zuva rega rega, nguva yega yega, ndichisvika kuvateveri vangu nebhuku, nemeseji dzaro, nekuti ikozvino ndinozvinzwa zvese nenzira isiri yechokwadi. Ndinoda kuti bhuku iri rive muzvitoro zvemabhuku, kuti ribate, riinzwe, riudzwe zvavanofunga.
AL: Rino rondedzero nyowani, Kuurayiwa kwaSocrates, kwakasiyana sei neKuurayiwa kwaPythagoras?
MC: Iyi nhoroondo inokwezva nekuda kwezvikonzero zviviri: chimwe ndiSocrates iye, uyo priori anokwezva kupfuura Pythagoras. Iye eccentric hunhu, uyo akakwezva kutariswa muAtene uye akapindira muhupenyu hweguta rake. Isu tine rumwe ruzivo nezvake uye, chokwadika, nezve zvakapoteredza. Pythagoras aimiririra Magna Greece yakaiswa kumaodzanyemba kweItari, nepo runyorwa urwu ruchiiswa mumoyo weClassical Greece, chivako chebudiriro, chenyika. Socrates anoratidza kuberekwa uye ini handingataure nezvefilosofi asi yekushanduka-shanduka kune izvo zvitsananguro nezve denga kana mvura, semuenzaniso, kuti munhu ari kupihwa. Socrates akaita mutsauko ndokuti HERE, chakakosha chinhu ndiye murume, saka ngatitsvakei chokwadi chakazara. Iyo nzira yekufunga iyo inomuita iye baba ve rationalism uye humanism, baba veuzivi. Zvese zvakaberekerwa maari, uye ndizvo zvinotitsanangura. Makumi emakumi mairi umo hunhu hunomuka, kubwinya kukuru kunosvitswa mutsika, kupenda, zvivakwa, mushonga zvakare kunoonekwa, zvinyorwa, zvese zvakachekwa zvakakwana. Pamusoro pezvo, zvimwe zvinhu zvizhinji zvakazvarwa zviri zvechizvino-zvino: Mitambo yeOlympic, theatre, mavambo ezvinhu atiri kunzwa nhasi uye akabuda makore 2500 XNUMX apfuura aine fananidzo yakakura kune iyo yatinayo izvozvi. Zvakawanikwa izvo, kwemazana emakore, zvakanyangarika, nerumutsiridzo iri iri sangano rakavanunura kusvikira nhasi. Muchidimbu, ndiko kwatakabva. Uye izvo zviri kukwezva vanhu.
AL: Ndechipi chinyanya kukosha chidzidzo chatinounzwa naSocrates?
MC: Ndihwo hupenyu hwake uye kufa kwake, aive munhu asina kubvuma zvachose, uyo akatyisidzirwa nerufu nekurwira nekuraramira chokwadi nekutonga. Semhedzisiro yake, kufamba kwakakosha kwakabuda kunotimaka. Ndeapi varume akaratidzira maitiro ekuzvibata kwevarume kana kushanda sereferenzi? Iwe unogona kufunga nezvaGandhi, zvaJesu Kristu kuvaKaturike; muna Socrates. Dzidziso dzake chaidzo dzakazova nzira yehupenyu.
AL: Mitambo yeOlympics, yemitambo, zvinhu zvakachengetedzwa nemunhu kubvira Girisi rekare, asi pane zvimwe zvinhu padanho rezvematongerwo enyika kana rezvematongerwo enyika pakati peiyo Girisi yaunotsanangudza neyekuMadokero kwazvino izvo zvingangodaro zvisina kuchinja zvakanyanya?
MC: Chaizvoizvo. Iko kune fanano iyo yandinodisa kuratidza mubhuku iri nezvematongerwo enyika. Iyo yaive yekutanga democracy munyika, ivo vaive vasina mareferenzi, asi ivo vakaita hutsinye hwakafanana hwatinoita nhasi. Iwo waive musangano uko munhu wese akavhota, akachena kwazvo. Asi sekutaura kwaEuripides, democracy hutongi hwehudzvanyiriri hwevadzimi. Pakupedzisira vakauya, vakagutsa munhu wese nekuchiva kwavo uye vakaita sarudzo dzakaipisisa. Semuenzaniso, Hondo yePeloponnesia inorondedzerwa mubhuku yakatora makore makumi maviri nemanomwe uye paive nenzira dzinoverengeka dzekuimisa kuburikidza nekushandisa izwi, asi paive nevanhu chaivo vakasarudza kuenderera nemhirizhonga nekuda kwavo kuda simba. , nekuda kwekuchiva ikoko.kuti vakagutsa vamwe uye kuti vamwe vese, semakwai, vakagamuchira.
AL: Uye izvo zvinobata here?
MC: Ehe, zvematongerwo enyika zvinowanzo tenderwa nevanhu vane charisma, uye zvinosuwisa nekuda kwezvikonzero zvisina kunaka uye nezvavanofarira. Naizvozvo, mukupedzisira, nzanga yese inoita zvisarudzo zvisina kunaka kune vashoma vane hunyanzvi hwekufambisa zvishuwo zvakanyanya uye zvisina kufunga zvemunhu.
AL: Iwe wakataura nezuro kuti wakatanga kunyora ino nganonyorwa pakazvarwa mwanasikana wako Lucia, uyo akazvarwa aine Down Syndrome. Dzimwe nguva tinowanzo nyora pamusoro penyaya dzinogona kunge dziri dzechienzi kwatiri kana, muchokwadi, pamwe isu zvakare tine yedu pachedu kana yakawanda nyaya dzevanhu dzatinogona kurondedzera. hukama hwababa? ndiani anonyora nemwanasikana akaremara?
MC: Ehe, izvo zvandakambofunga nezvazvo kugadzira runyorwa rwakaiswa nhasi mune mumwe wevatambi ane Down Syndrome. Izvi zvinogona kundibvumidza kuti ndiratidze chokwadi cheDown Syndrome, kunyangwe ndichigara ndichiedza kuchiratidza munzira dzakawanda. Iyo ingave nzira yekunyaradza kusarura kuripo pamusoro pavo, kuratidza chokwadi chavo, icho chiri nyore. Nenzira iyoyo hupenyu hwakareruka uye nzanga iri kuvagamuchira. Iyo ingave iri nzira yakanakisa yekuratidzira, ichigadzira hunhu neDown Syndrome iyo inondibvumidza kuti ndiratidze ruzivo ndisina kumira kuti nditaure chaizvo nezvazvo, izvo zvinoramba zvakabatana, zvakabatana nechirongwa. Ndakagara ndichifunga nezvazvo, asi zvakare izvozvi zvinogona kunge zvisingaenderane nemapurojekiti angu ari padhuze.
AL: Ndeapi mazano aungapa kune avo vadiki vanyori vari kugadzirira kunyora yavo yekutanga novel?
MC: Kushingairira, kutsungirira. Zvinoenderana nekuti ndeipi mhando yenyaya iyi, maitiro acho anogona kunge akaomarara, chibayiro. Ndokusaka iwe uchifanira kugutsikana kuti chokwadi chekuchinyora chinokuripira. Kana, mukuwedzera, iro basa rinova rakabudirira, saka izvo zvinowedzerwa zvikamu zvatove pachena. Tsvaga kugutsikana kuburikidza nekunyora, kwete kubudirira.
AL: Uye ndiani waungade kuzviratidza iwe kune iyo Planeta Mubairo?
MC: Chero ani anoda kunyora bhuku uye kubudirira naro. Uku kutengeserana uye unofanirwa kutanga watanga kudzidza. Nguva dzese pandinoverenga bhuku kubva makore apfuura uye ini ndikaona chimwe chinhu chandisingade, ndinoti kwandiri, zvakanaka! Izvo zvinofanirwa kuve zvakajeka. Kunze kwekunge iwe uri Mozart yekunyora, mune iri basa zvakajairwa kuti iwe unofanirwa kudzidza. Tiza kubata kumeso uye tsvaga kushoropodzwa. Wobva wagadzirisa uye gadzirisa kusvikira wagonesa vatsoropodzi.
AL: Uri kuitei nemubairo?
MC: Kutanga, Hacienda anotora hafu (anoseka). Semumabhuku angu eses 10% inoenda kumasangano evanhu vakaremara. Ipapo ini ndichagovera izvo zvasara mumakore matatu kusvika inoverengeka inotevera uye kubhadhara zvikwereti.
AL: Ndeapi masangano aunoshanda pamwe chete nawo?
MC: Garrigou ndiye mukuru, nekuti anoshanda nechikoro chemwanasikana wangu. Zvakare neiyo Down Syndrome Foundation yeMadrid. Mwanasikana wangu paakange ari mucheche ndakamuendesa ikoko uye vakamugamuchira chaizvo, nemishonga yekurapa, kurapa kwekutaura, kukurudzira. ndizvo zvakanakisa: kuvakurudzira kuti vavandudze kugona kwavo, uye mune nyaya yemwanasikana wangu shanduko iyi yaishamisa. Rudo rwavanogashira kubva kuvabereki, chinova chinhu chandino shandira nesimba, chakakoshawo, nekuti kana baba vakafungira chirwere ichi, kuchinjika kunogona kuve kwakaomarara uye kuchiramba kuchirambwa.